In this episode Adam and Mark decide to ponder some of their favourite punk bands. This episode they discuss the Kings of Punk Poison Idea. Listen as they share their favourite Poison Idea albums, songs, moment and urban legends.
Poison Idea, Jerry A and Pig Champion contribution to hard-core cannot be underestimated. They helped to create and sustain the genre so that it remains today for future generations. So I thought I would put this article together pinched from various sources and my own brain to fill in a bit of a PI history of sorts.
Poison Idea was started in 1980 in Portland, Oregon, by vocalist Jerry A. (Lang). Within a year, the band had a solid line up with drummer Dean Johnson, guitarist Tom Roberts (aka Pig Champion from the band Imperialist Pigs), and bassist Glen Estes. Influenced by Germs and Black Flag, they took their musical cues from bands such as Discharge and SOA. Pushing the speed limits of contemporary punk rock, they played raw and angry hard-core the likes of which had rarely been heard before (or since).
Their 1983 debut EP, Pick Your King, was released. Its subsequent follow-up, Record Collectors are Pretentious Assholes (featuring Pig Champion's substantial collection on the cover), saw Chris "Tense" replacing Glen on bass. Both were put out on a small label from Eugene, Oregon called Fatal Erection.
In 1986, Poison Idea released the aptly titled Kings of Punk LP. By this time, the band's sound had changed from manic, breakneck thrash, to a more driving, Motörhead -influenced attack - losing none of their intensity, anger, or nihilism.
In the next few years, Poison Idea's line up (mainly the rhythm section) changed several times. By 1989, Poison Idea pulled it together; after trouble with record companies and distributors, they started their own label, American Leather (named after a Germs track), and began by reissuing their 1982 demo.
|Mark-O-Mark with Jerry A - |
Bendigo Hotel - Melbourne 17 May 2014
The band found their most stable line up in years: Jerry A., Pig Champion, Myrtle Tickner, and Thee Slayer Hippie and then added lead guitarist Eric "Vegetable" Olson, who wrote many PI tunes during his tenure in the band. The band then released War All the Time (named for the Charles Bukowski book) in 1987. War All the Time and the EPs that followed (the Getting the Fear 12" and the Filthkick 7") found them further developing the rock/hardcore sound first established on Kings of Punk, which they would hone in 1990 with Feel the Darkness. The classic Feel the Darkness successfully combining (where so, so many others had failed) the best elements of hard-core and hard rock for a dark, powerful sound. By this time, their drinking habits and hard living were beginning to catch up with them: the band weighed in at about 1,300 lb. collectively, and Pig Champion in particular was very fat, often having to play sitting down.
Poison Idea was one of those bands of unsung heroes that went virtually unnoticed while more successful bands took elements of their style and broke through to mainstream audiences. Poison Idea has been cited as an influence by bands and musicians such as Nirvana, Zeke, Turbonegro, Eyehategod, Pantera, Napalm Death, Machine Head, Emperor’s Bård Faust, Generation Graveyard and Ratos de Porão, but the closest that Poison Idea's music has come to respectable exposure was when Pantera covered "The Badge" for the soundtrack to "The Crow" in 1994.
|Poison Idea at the Crowbar Brisbane|
15 May 2014
Most people, who bought that soundtrack all those years ago, thought the song was great, but never did any research into where it came from.
I was at a party when I first heard the track, I remember how spun out I was when I heard the badge on the stereo. It sounded good but not quite right, I said something to someone like- “Hey that’s a Poison Idea song, who‘s playing it”. And after the obligatory who the fuck is Poison idea I got – “its Pantera man”. I had discovered Feel the Darkness a few years earlier in the "Punk" section of my local record store and it still spins regularly
When Pig Champion left the band in 1993, and PI effectively called it quits. However just over five years later, Jerry A reformed the band in late 1999 with the line-up featuring Tom "Pig Champion" Roberts (guitar), Matt Brainard (guitar), Chris Carey (bass) and Chris Cuthbert (drums), breaking in the new line-up the band toured the east coast in 2002 including an appearance at CBGB's.
On January 31, 2006 guitarist Tom "Pig Champion" Roberts died aged 47 at his home in Portland of undetermined causes, although he had been suffering from the flu and an untreated kidney infection. The band had recorded the new record and it was ready for release when he died. Pig wanted the record to be called Latest Will and Testament, a name that the rest of the band liked. After Tom’s death Jerry commented that Pig probably knew something that the rest of them didn’t the album was released in May 2006 on Farewell Records. The band did not play a record release show, or any show for over a year as they tried to get used to the idea that their friend was gone.
|2014 Aust tour poster|
The band distributed a video announcement in early October, 2013 announcing now new line up and 2014 world tour with new bassist Natalie Lucio and Eric "Vegetable" Olson re-joining the band on guitar after an almost 25 year absence, best known for his work on the War All the Time album, the band led by original front man Jerry A and featuring a number of other members from throughout the band’s past. I thought I’d never get to see the mighty Poison Idea live in concert, But they finally graced Australian shores May 2014 with a four date tour that turned into a seven date with an extra show in Sydney and two in Melbourne. On top of Adelaide on May 14th at Enigma Bar, Brisbane’s Crowbar on May 15th, the Bald Faced Stag in Sydney on Friday 16th May and the Bendigo Hotel in Collingwood on Saturday 17th May.
Poison Idea - Mating Walruses A video history (1982 - 1989)
Poison Idea @ The Crowbar- Brisbane, Australia. 15 May 2014
Poison Idea live at the Old Bar, Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia on Tuesday the 20th of May 2014. (Last Australian show).
1986 - Kings of Punk LP (originally released on Pusmort Records)
1987 - War All the Time LP (originally released on Alchemy Records (U.S.)
1990 - Feel the Darkness LP (originally released on Vinyl Solution and American Leather)
1992 - Blank Blackout Vacant LP (originally released on No Problem and Vinyl Solution)
1993 - We Must Burn LP (originally released on Vinyl Solution and Tim/Kerr)
2006 - Latest will and Testament CD/LP (originally released on Farewell Records Network of Friends)
2015 - Confuse & Conquer CD/LP (released on Southern Lord Records)
Singles and EPs
1983 - Pick Your King 7" EP (Fatal Erection, American Leather, TKO Records)
1984 - Record Collectors Are Pretentious Assholes 12" EP (Fatal Erection)
1988 - Filthkick 7" EP (Shitfool, TKO Records)
1988 - Getting the Fear 12", 7" EP (Rockport, TKO Records)
1989 - Just To Get Away 7" Picture Disc Single (American Leather)
1989 - Darby Crash Rides Again 7" EP (American Leather, TKO Records)
1989 - Plastic Bomb Cassette Single (Self-released)
1990 - Taken By Surprise 7" (Sub Pop)
1990 - Discontent 7" (American Leather)
1991 - Punish Me 7", 12" & CD EP (Vinyl Solution, American Leather)
1991 - Dead Boy - A Tribute To Stiv w/ Jeff Dahl, 7" Single (Triple X Records)
1991 - Official Bootleg 2x7" EP (Vinyl Solution, American Leather)
1992 - Return of the Rat/Up Front w/ Nirvana 7" (Tim/Kerr)
1993 - Religion & Politics Part 1 & 2 2x7", 10" & CD EP (Insipid Vinyl, Tim/Kerr)
1993 - Single At X-mas w/ Ray & Grover 7" Single (Tim/Kerr)
1993 - Split Single w/ Babes In Toyland 7" Single (Insipid Vinyl)
1993 - Feel the Darkness (Remix) 7" Single (Dirter Promotions)
1998 - Learning to Scream 7" EP (Taang! Records)
2007 - Bipolar Hardcore Split 7" Picture Disc Single w/ Kill Your Idols (TKO Records)
2013 - 2013 Black Friday X-mas Split w/Angry Snowmans 7" Single (TKO Records)
2014 - Triple Chocolate Pentration 7" Single RECORD STORE DAY 2014 (Voodoo Donut)
2014 - The Badge w/ Pantera Split 7" Single RECORD STORE DAY 2014 (Rhino Records)
2015 - Rövsvett 7" (Just 4 Fun)
2016 - Calling All Ghosts 12" (American Leather)
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